As part of the Samson Legacy Series celebrating 50 years of Samson Equipment, Scott Warman joins the Samson Strength Coach Collective to share stories from his pioneering career in strength coaching. Scott discusses the evolution of training across sports, the importance of safety in the weight room, and the innovations in equipment design that helped establish Samson as an industry leader. He also reflects on his long-standing relationship with Dave and Linda Schroeder, whose integrity and vision have been central to Samson’s longevity and success.
Key Takeaways
- Scott Warman is a pioneer in strength coaching with a deep industry history
- Samson Equipment has evolved significantly over the past 50 years
- Safety in the weight room is critical to long-term athlete development
- Innovative equipment design has always set Samson apart
- Dave and Linda Schroeder’s leadership shaped Samson’s foundation
- Strength training is now widely accepted across all sports
- Early strength coaches faced skepticism and limited resources
- Samson’s legacy is rooted in integrity and quality
- Scott’s passion for strength training remains strong
- The bond between Scott Warman and the Schroeder family defines the Legacy Series
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“I’m gonna keep lifting to my last breath.” — Scott Warman
Samson :
What’s going on, Samson Strength Coach Collective listeners. Today’s introduction is for our Samson Legacy Series, which we are putting out as a series of podcasts with people who have been integral to Samson’s success or have been long-time customers, long-time friends of the Samson company ⁓ ever since its genesis 50 years ago. So Samson Equipment is celebrating 50 years, which is an amazing feat, ⁓ not only for a company to be able to
survive 50 years, right, but thrive and actually build these amazing relationships and be a company with such a reputable name. It was amazing for me to be able to speak with these legends in the field. I mean, you guys are going be really excited about the guests that we have on the podcast. Off the top of my head, I can name like five household names in straightening and conditioning who come on and discuss Samson equipment and really speak about what it meant to them to work with Samson and Dave and Linda and Brian and Scott.
and all these amazing people at this company. I’ve told my wife, you’ll hear me say it on the podcast many times during the series, but these are some of my favorite episodes that we ever recorded. One, because obviously I get to speak with these legends in the field. It’s very exciting for me. But then two, and the most important reason is I’ve always known in my heart how great of a company Samson is and how amazing of a culture they have and how fantastic it is to work with them. But I didn’t realize
to what magnitude ⁓ that reach was. Every single guest we had on the podcast ⁓ had the same things to say, which is fantastic, but then also separate individual stories about why they chose Samson, why they worked with Samson, why Dave and Linda made their experience amazing. And it was so interesting to me to see how all these people had the same yet unique experiences and just had such an amazing.
time working with Samson and then eventually, mean, all of them became friends because that’s how it is when you work with Dave and Linda. So at the end of the day, this was such an exciting series for me to be a part of. It’s really fun to hear about the history of the company, but this is truly about celebrating 50 years of Samson Equipment, which is an amazing feat. So my personal message to Dave and Linda is congratulations. Thank you for building such an amazing company and thank you for.
changing the field of strength and conditioning, because that’s truly what you’ve done with your amazing customer service, personability, all around, I believe they would call it rock star-ness. So thank you so much. ⁓ I truly, truly love this series and I think you listeners will enjoy it as well. As always, thank you for listening and I hope you enjoy.
Samson :
What’s going on Sampson Strength Coach Collective listeners on today’s episode, we have a man with quite the introduction, somebody that we are very excited to speak with. And this is part of our legacy series to celebrate 50 years of Sampson equipment. On today’s episode, we have Scott Warman. I mean, there’s a million things to say about this guy. mean, incredible things.
⁓ I mean, the first and most important piece why we have you on here is when Brian gave me a call, he told me that you are Uncle Scott, essentially to the family. You trained both Brian and Scott. You were the youngest head strength coach in America at Marshall, ⁓ first strength coach at Marshall, first strength coach at UTEP, worked with the Cowboys and then obviously had a very illustrious powerlifting career with many championships and many records broken.
So obviously a very successful former professional powerlifter and then introduced to Samson by being a spokesperson and helping with equipment design for Samson. And again, we just have to finish it off with Uncle Scott, essentially. So Scott Warman, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Scott Warman :
Well, it’s a pleasure and honor to ⁓ be associated with Samson, first of all, and Linda and Dave and, wow, what a power couple they are. They don’t get the credit they deserve. being, you didn’t introduce my age, so I’m actually 70. So I’m an old person, been involved with this for 50 years. So yeah, one of the pioneers. ⁓ When I first started off, I have endless stories. I can remember.
Samson :
Hehehehe. Hehehehe.
Scott Warman :
When I was at Marshall, ⁓ had a pretty good baseball team and wouldn’t let me train the pitchers at all, not even off season. And then when I went to Sam Houston State, again, good baseball team, couldn’t train the pitchers. And I had to win a lot of people over. When I went to UTEP, ⁓ UTEP’s kind of famous for Coach Don Haskins, the basketball coach. Started. ⁓
five African American players, one national championship. And he was very excited because ⁓ they were getting physically pushed around and they were last in the ⁓ conference with offensive and defensive rebounds. And so one of the things he told me, we’re driving around the desert in his truck because he didn’t like his office too much. And we would meet in his truck, we would drive around and he said, Warman, he said, if I ever catch you training my players during the season.
He said, I’ll do all I can to not only get you fired from this university, but see that you never get another strength coach position again. And he held to that. And the players, once they saw what it did, they wanted to keep training. And I said, I can’t do it. Well, we won’t tell anybody, there’s too much visibility. And it’s just like, no, it’s not going to go into witch hunt. If you train somewhere else, you know, that’s up to you, but you can’t train with me or in any of our facilities. And he held that.
Samson :
It’s hard.
Scott Warman :
He held that to the day and then I trained coach Askins. He struggled with his health. so the latter years of his life, his wife, Mary came over to ⁓ my gym. was a grocery store that I renovated into a gym and he came over around lunchtime and, ⁓ he’s, he, he’s pretty tight with coaches and athletes, but you don’t trust the rest of the world. So he’s not going to go to a commercial gym.
So he’s losing his balance and he’s overweight and he’s diabetic and he’s had some amputation on his toes. And so we trained for a couple of years together. And then I remember he was telling me, it’s hot out. I’m to stop for the summer and I’ll start back in the fall. thinking, and I remember ⁓ I was a Gideon international chaplain and the guys would always ask me about coach Haskins. And I said, I don’t think he’s going to make it to the first of the year. And he stopped training with me and
And he didn’t, that was it. And he passed away. so yeah, that was an amazing experience training with him. And a lot of people know his background, but this is all about Samson and Dave. So I’m not going to go on and on about that.
Samson :
Yes, but we’d love to hear your stories too, for sure. ⁓ So please continue to regale us. As you mentioned, we are celebrating 50 years of Samson Equipment. When did you first encounter Samson Equipment?
Scott Warman :
So that’s an interesting question and I pondered on that for a while ⁓ last night. so we have to go back in time and I wrote some notes down. So we have to understand that this is before social media ever started and the magazines were enormous. So the National Strength Coach Association, which still exists, I was one of the pioneer members. And when that journal came out,
man, I read it front to back cover. I poured over it. took reading notes because I’m a big note taker. I highlighted it in the margin and I still have them, the original ones. I kept them from the very first edition on. And so the first I saw Sampson was in the magazines and because they would do advertisements. So social media doesn’t exist. There’s no
cell phones, there’s no computers, there’s mainframe computers, but that’s it. So that’s when I first heard about them. And I was fascinated because I’m I’m a equipment junkie, so to speak. And ⁓ I got started. ⁓ I actually worked in the summers with a guy by the name of Andy Graf, who was a runner up, Mr. AAU, Mr. America years ago. And I worked with him a little bit and he had,
a phenomenal facility in Trenton, New Jersey. And then he had one in Florida and then he had a third one. And so I was really introduced a lot by him because when he did the Mr. America, that was like 1954 or something like that. And so I got a lot of history, what was going on for then. But I remember being fascinated with the equipment and ⁓ ever since then, and then
After I had my injury, my senior year, ⁓ I had surgery and I figured out, that’s, that’s how I’m going to get back in the NFL was through strength training. And, so the introduction to Samson was through the magazines. And if we go back and look at the history of that, ⁓ we see some strong names out there on the East coast where I’m from. had, ⁓ Bob Hoffman and York barbell and, ⁓ Milo was the first.
production equipment company in ⁓ the United States. And they didn’t advertise, they didn’t do well. York brought them out. ⁓ Steel was big back then on the East Coast, thus the name Pittsburgh Steelers, there was steel mills around there. And so from there, ⁓ that was strong. And then people don’t know it. They think Wheater’s associated with California, but he’s not. He came in from him and his brother.
came in from Canada and they settled in New Jersey. And then he had this dream or this vision of marketing Weeder on the West Coast. And that’s when he brought in Arnold and the idea of ⁓ building this image of ⁓ sun, fun, girls, and it just made it mainstream. But on the East Coast, you have Bob Hoffman that’s associated with the sport of weightlifting.
And so I actually trained out of there for a while with the guys on the U S team. Cause I started with powerlifting, went to weightlifting, went back to powerlifting. So we can talk for days about those stories, but that’s fascinating. So that was there. ⁓ the selectorize equipment, we have universal gym that started in California from a bodybuilder in California and they moved it to Idaho. And, ⁓ that, that was the jungle gyms with the selectorize equipment. They’re all connected.
I remember going to a basketball camp while I was doing there. don’t know, just to get in shape, run by Billy Cunningham, the head coach for this, ⁓ for the Philadelphia, ⁓ 76ers. And so they had this weight facility and man, I’m spent, I’m getting in trouble because I’m spending all my time in the weight room and my dad’s paying for me to go through the basketball camp, but I’m sore. my gosh. And I had no clue what I was doing, but it was just like,
It’s fine, just lift it. And so I remember that experience. And then we have Nautilus that stepped in and that was in the late sixties, early seventies, but that was selectorized and he did it individually and huge marketing for that. ⁓ He was with the Miami Dolphins. He was with West Point. So we had that, but we really didn’t have anything going on as far as quality equipment. So Sampson steps in and I think if you were to talk to Dave now or
Scott or Brian, they would tell you that they have over 1,400 individual pieces, which is just outrageous. And so you had basically home gym equipment and these guys are making stuff. mean, it’s stronger than strong. And I mean, the pro strongman today can compete on it. that’s kind of a little bit, they came in at the right time and Dave, most people don’t know it, but
He was a tremendous athlete in California, tremendous, ⁓ undefeated his senior year in wrestling, ⁓ fastest guy in the football team. And Dave’s a linebacker and in his prime, he’s, you know, six, two plus and playing high school football at about 230, which is huge. He’s like a Dick Buskus type guy. And then he’s, ⁓ he holds the state record in the shot put and so multi-sport athlete. And then he ends up in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
for New Mexico state and Linda, she’s the head cheerleader. Dave’s the captain of the football team. And so connect the dots on that one. That’s, that’s another long, long story. And then Linda, she’s a swimmer too. And they had a swim team there and Linda is a tremendous athlete. So Dave doesn’t make it in the NFL plays a little bit of semi-pro football. And then he ends up being a athletic director.
and head football coach, head wrestling coach. And I think he’s a thrower coach too at, ⁓ and I should know the name of the school, but I don’t in New Mexico. And they were, they were terrible. They had lost for years. Well, Dave is thinking it’s not just X’s and O’s. These guys need to get more physical. And so he knows what it did for him. And so the story you can go on their website is he introduces weight training to this high school football team. And before you know it,
They’re the top football team in New Mexico. And Dave takes out a little bit of his ⁓ money and he starts and in the summer he’s building equipment, but he’s building it for his high school. So power racks and benches doesn’t really know anything about welding. He’s like self-taught. And again, you don’t have social media that you can Google and learn how to do all that stuff. So he’s hiring students from New Mexico state and they’re working with him in the summer.
They’re building equipment. Well, the reputation takes off and these coaches, they’re calling, they want to come down and they think it’s about coaching and X’s and O’s. Dave says, you know what? And he gets on the board and I can remember at one of the conferences, he draws 11 stick figures and then he breaks a chalk and he has thicker stick figures. And he said, even if they know the plays, these thick stick figures, the thicker ones are always going to beat these guys.
And they’re like, what? And so that’s when Sampson is born because they want equipment. Like, where do you go to get equipment? Where do you get these power racks? Where do you get the benches? Where do you get these basic things? Where do you get the dumbbells? And so Dave was really instrumental in his legacy is huge with him introducing strength training to sport. And then it started with football, but then it moved to other sports too. And now
You know, every, every sports you can think of from diving to golf to women’s sports on and on golf, everybody’s strength trains. But the understanding is, okay, and that’s where strength coaches come in. You’re not a bodybuilder. You’re not a strongman. You’re not a powerlifter. And if you’re training a diver, how does that differ than training a wrestler that doesn’t run the training, ⁓ a wide receiver for football to training a D tackle.
And so the strength coach position gradually evolved because the football coaches, they didn’t want to do it. That’s kind of how I got my first job because they didn’t want to do it. It was a little bit of like a hodgepodge of this and that. And so I love to tell the story. I’m so unqualified, but in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. And so I cringe when I look back and think, my gosh, I knew like nothing, but, ⁓ I was on a U S team and.
I had Luke Iames that I’m learning from there. And so my introduction to Sampson was through magazines that they would have ads. And ⁓ I moved my home about a year ago and I have so much stuff that I would love to show, but I don’t have it. And so I would do ads for them for like apparel, equipment, became their spokesperson, but it was through the magazines. And I would go to some trade shows. Like I went to the Arnold Classic and I had a booth out there and
Talked to, it seemed like thousands of people, but it was probably, you know, four or 500 people. Um, many of them were just curious, but some of them were, uh, schools and coaches and athletic directors and people that were wanting to buy. So, you know, Sampson came up through an unusual time when we didn’t have social media. And so that’s how I first found out about them and their dumbbells, which were amazing. They, they led the world in dumbbells.
And what was fascinating about the dumbbells is they would build all different kinds. So if we go all the way back to Gold’s Gym and a guy by the name of Pete Krimkowski, a pro bodybuilder, they wanted dumbbells. And so Dave is building these dumbbells to believe it or not, 200 pounds and their plate select. All right. And so they start with, I actually have the very first dumbbells that Dave ever made and they start with 25 pound plates.
And there are three 25 pound plates on each side. The bar rotates like an Olympic bar. We loaded them up over 300. And I worked with some pretty amazing lifters that were 700 plus pound benchers. And we would do that, use those for all kinds of exercises. And so with those dumbbells, they’re plate loaded, but the dumbbells would always come loose and they would break. So what Dave did is he had this system where you get the dumbbells, put a thick washer, and then he would compress them down with
I don’t know how many tons and then they would weld them. And so they couldn’t loosen up. They wouldn’t come apart. Now, if you dropped them from overhead, yeah, you could break them because it’s, it’s iron, it’s cast iron, they’re not steel. Although eventually they, they went to steel and same thing with this plates. His plates were iron and then eventually he went to steel for select rise plates. But those dumbbells were so famous and so gold, the famous Gold’s gym where Arnold trained had Dave Schroeder.
dumbbells and then World Gym got them and then Powerhouse and they just expanded. those dumbbells were of enormous importance. But really what captured my attention was when Dave did the facilities for University of Texas, which was big, you we think of Darrell Royal and the history of that. And then we look at A we look at Jackie Sherrill and I actually, he brought me in for an interview to be the head.
strength and conditioning coach. And unbeknownst to me, the position was already filled and crazy as that is. And then, ⁓ the guy that took it was a strength coach at Oklahoma. They clashed heads. And so then he went back to Oklahoma. So then Jackie Sherrill calls me again. I’m thinking, I don’t want to have anything to do with this guy, but that was like a pretty good job at the time. Jackie Sherrill, I think he won three in a row conference championships and he was.
the highest-paid head football coach in America. the facilities that Dave built were like nothing else. And I remember the A when I saw it in a… I actually have a big picture of it that Dave gave to me. I should have had it framed and put up on the wall, but it was blown up and elongated it. So was 75 yards long, which was outrageous. It had a turf ⁓ where you could run a 40, so coaches could come in and time you.
And then it had an upstairs to it. had a laboratory for testing. ⁓ they had supplements and they had like 11 of everything. So 11 power racks, 11 benches, 11 dumbbell stations from five pounds to whatever went to 180 pounds. I mean, it was outrageous. And so that brought a lot of notoriety. And so the facility at A ⁓ and at UT
That captured people’s imagination. There was nothing even close to that. And then from there, ⁓ colleges came in, pro teams came in, ⁓ you know, all over and it was the only equipment. Sorenex, started in the eighties, he was a power lifter. Not a, not a real good one, but he competed at the nationals a couple of times, but that wasn’t his forte, but he had a really good mind and he started. ⁓
some unique stuff. He still has equipment to this day, still alive. so Sorenex came in, but there really wasn’t anybody at the time. So we really see ⁓ Sampson just being an industry leader in so many areas. And then he started to make other equipment that was selectorized. And about that time, we go back to Arthur Jones with his equipment and Arthur Jones ⁓ sells his Nautilus equipment for
outrageous amount of money that’s in the early 70s. And then he starts a company for his son, his son Gary Jones. And that was plate loaded and it became known as hammer strength. But that was machines and that took off enormously. And then they had some individual pieces. But the bottom line is there really wasn’t any competition. And so Sampson grew and grew and grew. And they had an early stranglehold on the
on the company. that’s kind of how I got to know about Sampson.
Samson :
Well,
that’s incredible. And I mean, I just love hearing all the history of it, and especially from somebody who was there for the company just growing and continuing to succeed. you mentioned a lot of different companies and my stories with Brian and speaking with others within Sampson, there’s a lot of companies that don’t last. makes it, you know, what to you about Sampson has allowed them to last?
Scott Warman :
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, that’s
a great question. And there’s one answer and there’s two names and it’s Dave and Linda Schroeder. And their vision and Dave’s tenacity, I mean, he’s a workhorse and he’s fair, but he’s outstanding. ⁓ So we’re friends, but I’m still working for him. I mean, I’m getting a monthly check once I come on as a spokesperson. So there’s times when you feel
the pressure that you know what, you gotta step it up. ⁓ you know, he put a lot on my shoulders and I don’t know if he remembers, but he offered me the company at one time. Samson Company, I’m thinking, my gosh, like I’m an idiot, like how am I gonna do that? And ⁓ my lifting was in full swing. And I said, first of all,
The only money I ever really made was from endorsement contracts, from lifting. I never made money as a strength coach. They pay now. good college strength coach can make for football, make a million dollars. ⁓ And in the NFL, you you can make two or three million. But back then, you know, the early strength coaches, we didn’t get paid very much at all. Our value was not understood until later on. So injury prevention, ⁓
player personnel development, making players faster, preventing injuries, ⁓ the cohesiveness, because you’re with them year round. All that was not really understood. And so as strength coaches, as pioneers, we had to instill that. like with Coach Haskins, ⁓ a lot of times it was the players themselves because they saw the benefits of it. And I also had the good fortune and I never had an injury in the weight room that required surgery.
I don’t, I’ll acquaint that to myself, that’s a lot of luck and maybe God’s hand upon it, but you can’t get your players hurt in the weight room. That’s impossible. You just can’t do that because they’re going to get hurt in their sport. They don’t need to get hurt in the weight room. But at the same time, you’re pushing the envelope. And so I remember when David Lee was fired at UTEP, Charlie Bailey came in and
He was fired because of NCAA ⁓ problems with ⁓ University of Pittsburgh, but he was a good coach. And the first thing he said to me is, ⁓ I don’t want you to do deadlifts anymore. I’m thinking, well, wait a minute. What do you know about strength coaching? And so, and I don’t want you to test the guys out. mean, there was a multiple things that went on. And then at the same time, my endorsement contracts were coming in. And so that was a perfect time for me to.
step down and they didn’t even hire a strength coach for like four years after I left. And so it just shows, you know, where his thoughts were and they didn’t do very good either. But it was the big whack and it was competitive and that was that.
Samson :
Wow. You you mentioned a lot too about being kind of an early on equipment tester and helping develop equipment. Can you talk to me about that process working with Dave and Linda?
Scott Warman :
Yeah.
Yeah.
So one of the things with Dave is, ⁓ Dave, you know, he’s a, he’s a guy that has tremendous, ⁓ foresight and to look into the future. And so when it came to equipment, ⁓ because he was an athlete himself and involved with his company, he had good guys that were able to, to do the, the actual metallurgy work.
and the equipment that they have. Like you go to his place today, I mean, he’s got one machine and he got it used. And I think it was about $5 million and it’s computerized and it cuts things. ⁓ It’s just outrageous. It just makes so many different things. And he got a guy to learn to operate. had to go to school for like four months. And I don’t even think Dave…
truly knows how to operate it. But it’s like a one of a kind and it laser cuts all these pieces. So instead of buying them, you can laser cut them and have them. But they fabricate so much stuff. And so they have ⁓ these huge lathes that they can manufacture everything from bars to on and on, but they never manufactured plates. But they were one of the very first to do signature plates. I think A was the first
companies, so they’re maroon plates with white lettering and I don’t know how many tons of that stuff he bought and that kind of captured people’s imagination. So now when you go to these pro teams and schools, they all have their own individual plates with their names on them from the schools, whether they’re bumper plates or whether they’re, and Dave doesn’t make them, but he gets them made. So he was a huge innovator in that. So you bring in athletes out of high school and they’re looking like, my gosh, there’s like,
you know, the name of the school and the place like, what’s that? You know, they, at the most high schools back then, just a hodgepodge of different kinds of weights. So even the dumbbells was the Samson names on them. So Dave had that vision and he understood equipment, but he’s not in the trenches as a competitor. And so my fascination with weight equipment is kind of how we came together. And so I would have this vision of equipment.
And so I think we talked the other day about University of Connecticut wanting to get belt squats. So at the time there’s no belt squats out there that I know of. And so Dave and I had talked about it and he calls me and he says, ⁓ I just sold six belt squats to UConn basketball team. And I said, well, Dave, didn’t even do it. And he goes, that’s why I’m calling. And so he says, can I come down on Saturday? So on a Saturday afternoon, I’m transferring that vision in my mind.
to his paper and he had the old fashioned drafts and then he takes that, goes back, gives it to the guys on the cams ⁓ and they put it together off the computer and we have the first one. I go out there and test it and the next thing you know is being shipped out, those six pieces. And ⁓ then I remember the Cowboys getting them, the Dallas Cowboys and
the head strength coach at the time, Mike Wozik, he’s calling me because he can’t figure out like, how do we do this stuff? So because I’m using it and my wife at the time, Mary Ellen, she’s a professional bodybuilder, world champion powerlifter, would only train like three months out of the year. First human to lift four times her weight in competition, 132 class, five one, and she’s warming up with more than the cowboy lineman can even lift. And so
⁓ I just, not very smart, but for whatever reason, I just have an instinct for equipment. And so we would take pieces of equipment and we would refine it or we would build new pieces of equipment. And that’s kind of my position and because of my lifting and even though power lifting doesn’t have the prestige in the name within that industry, it’s like, well, you know, why does this guy win every year? And, and I’m a little guy.
And I don’t have very good genetics. remember my strength and conditioning coach, or my powerlifting coach, Luke Iams, who was a giant. ⁓ when I first went up there to qualify for the collegiate nationals, I think I told you, he tells to me, said, you’re not, you’re not an athlete and like, you’re really small and you really don’t have anything going for you. And I think you should find another sport. And I’m thinking, what the heck? But he was the.
the man with the knowledge and it’s like, you know, just give me a chance. And then he touches my shoulder, touches my head and he says, now, he said, I’m not your coach. And he says, don’t even call me coach. You got, you got to earn that title. He doesn’t say that, but I learned that afterwards. And he says, but if you learn to live from here to there. So it was nutrition. It was the mechanics of the lifting. was setting up spreadsheets and programs.
And there’s like a science to it that people didn’t understand. And the progressive resistance, that’s the king of the jungle. Like, how do you do that? How do you put these programs together? Cause I was going flat. ⁓ I had gotten eighth in the collegiate nationals, second to a pro wrestler, Nick Busek in the state championships. I couldn’t make any more gains. And I was going to quit. And then I get to Luke and then it’s just like, my gosh, it’s almost not fair.
to my competitors because I’m going to go past them like nothing because now I have knowledge and I always had the drive and the desire but now I have tools to get stronger and bigger. I don’t care if the guy weighs 500 pounds, I’m going to outlift you. And so that’s kind of how we came together with Sampson and so Dave liked that. Boyer Coe was another guy. He worked with Body Masters back in the…
80s and he worked with their engineers. Boyer understood training and so he didn’t know anything about metallurgy, but he gave them an understanding. Okay, this is how the equipment should be built because the guys, I don’t care how well you can build equipment. You don’t understand how it works. You don’t understand the biomechanics of what equipment should be. A perfect example would be ⁓ Sampson. made equipment with the
the benches had this ⁓ steel bracket and it was right where your feet were. Well, get rid of that thing because then you can’t get your legs up underneath you. So just small innovations. ⁓ Unfortunately, there’s really no ⁓ way that you can put a patent on equipment because Dave would be a billionaire if you could do that. He had so many innovations. It was outrageous. So I remember ⁓
They asked him to bring the benches for one of the US nationals, US trials. And it was in our home state. It was in Dallas. And so I developed a bench, designed a bench with a spotter arms that you could adjust up and down. So your lifter doesn’t crush his face or neck. And then along with that, ⁓ a spotter platform where you can lift up, stand up and lift off and
But there’s no patents on it. But next thing you know, all these benches are coming out like that. And I remember there was an athlete, he was going to be a first round draft pick and he was at, ⁓ he was at your school, University of Southern California, and he was getting a handoff by his strength coach. He has a false grip, which is no good. He clicks the end of the, of the uprights. It falls on his throat. And, ⁓ needless to say.
He had multiple surgeries. didn’t think he would ever talk again. had to breathe mechanically, but he gets through all that and, um, but he never plays football again. Uh, he’s able to talk, but it crushed his throat. And I said, Dave, I said, why don’t we send like three benches out there at a university Southern Cal and, um, and do it. You write them off as far as PR and for whatever reason we didn’t do that. And I was even willing to fly out there. It’s like, let me go out there.
and talk to the athletic director. mean, that doesn’t have to happen. And we could have sold them like hotcakes, like every pro team, college team, because at the time the bench was still big. I downplay it now. Shoulders, well, first of all, it’s legs, then back, then shoulders. And so I don’t even know if other than incline bench, if a flat bench and decline bench have any purpose in athletics. ⁓ Even strong men, they do it, but…
really not that much. And so really it’s reserved for powerlifting, even CrossFitters, they don’t do it. So the general public, how much do you lift? Well, like what lift? But I mean, they’re automatically saying bench. mean, that’s in gyms throughout America, that’s benches king to this day. Like how much do bench? Like, oh my gosh.
Samson :
Well, it’s the endless, know, but I do remember, like you say, you know, one of the first stories I was ever told when weightlifting was that exact story you tell about the USC player. Like I remember those, I had to wrap my, I had a false grip. had to wrap my thumbs around the bar immediately. And I repeat that story all the time because equipment really comes down to safety of lifters as well too. And like you mentioned with never having a injury within the weight room that required surgery. Those things are important.
Scott Warman :
Yeah.
You can’t get your folks hurt. And so you’re a little bit of a conundrum. I don’t know if people still use that word. I’m old, so I like it. Because you want to, it’s like the race car driver. You got to push the envelope to do, to be good. But then at the same time, you risk smashing into that wall. You’re going into that wall with a Formula One or Indy car, 200 miles an hour and you’re inches away. But if you don’t do that, you’re going to get beat. And in lifting,
You got to push the envelope. Now, I think at times ⁓ you have to be careful. ⁓ People don’t test out anymore, but I think it’s necessary to see progress. ⁓ Like I’ll look at somebody that personifies that is, ⁓ is JJ Watt. You know, one of our great players, whatever six, seven, 300 pounds plus could run sideline to sideline.
He trained heavy and he did a lot of the strongman stuff. If somebody were to call me up today and say, know what, Worman, you’re old school, but I want to have a physical team that can run. I believe that the O and D line are the engine of any football team. Will you come here? I would say, I’m not going to ask him about the money. I’m going to say, first of all, I need monoliths because we can’t get our hands crushed. And I need strongman equipment.
And there’s a certain amount of stuff that I want. And the strong man stuff is really, really important. ⁓ and I need sand pits for us to run in because that’s awesome. And I need inclines and declines to sprint on. And I pushed the Cowboys big on that because they had them. They weren’t even using them thinking, what’s wrong with you guys? And so ⁓ I was never the head strength conditioning coach. That was Mike Wozniak who
Went from there and then he went, I think I told you that he went with the Patriots. So two championship teams and probably maybe the greatest strength coach ever in the pros and certainly by his record, he would be. So, ⁓ when it comes to the safety of the players and pushing your limit, you always want to improve. So I go to JJ Watt, I think three times he’s named defensive player of the year and the guy could run. He’s big, he’s physical.
He works his food, he’s lean and, ⁓ you know, outrageous what he could do and super strong. And another guy, ⁓ who played for the Cowboys known as one of the strongest guys in the league and could run like crazy. You, you Google him. name is Larry Allen. And he said he benched 700 pounds, which he doesn’t do. He’s, he’s got people helping him, but the guy was probably the strongest guy in the NFL at one time. ⁓ I actually, ⁓
Samson :
yeah, I’m very familiar.
Scott Warman :
worked with the strongest guy in the NFL for a number of years and that’s Carlos Scott. And he went to UTEP and was team captain and just an amazing, amazing athlete. But anyway, he was very big, very strong. He ended up with me at about 440 pounds, but could move and could run. It’s like son of a gun. So.
We know that even as an advanced athlete, and as you get older, you gotta do more lifting. We look at Brady, you know, he didn’t stop lifting. He picked it up as he got older. I think he played till he was like 44 or something like that. And then we look at another athlete that embraced strength is with the Cowboys here in our home state is Smith. Remember him? Played with the triplets.
Can’t even think of his last name. ⁓ He held the all time record rushing at one time. Emmett, yeah, everybody knows that name. Emmett Smith, but stayed in great shape. He played for 20 years as a running back. know, Walter Payton, another guy that embraced strength. And so we see all these athletes that are ⁓ breaking down the understanding of, you know, because when I came in, the coaches thought, it makes it slower. You get muscle bound. You don’t have the flexibility.
Samson :
I’m not familiar.
Emmett Smith? Yeah, okay, okay, yes, yes, yes. Yeah.
Scott Warman :
And just on and on and on, Earl Campbell, everybody knows that name. He’s a human record machine, big physical. mean, if he has a chance to run through somebody or run around him, he like a magnet, he’s going to find he’s going to run through that guy. And so ⁓ he still works with, ⁓ with UT now, but he’s, he’s pretty broken down. I mean, worse than me, but yeah, we, there was so many myths to overcome, but, ⁓ strength training, even
For more mature athletes, Michael Jordan did not get into strength training until he came back the second time. When baseball didn’t work out, incredible gym. And if we were to talk to Dave and Linda today, the number of very successful athletes like the Frank Thomases of the world ⁓ that had their own facilities with Samson Equipment, ⁓ outrageous. That spent several hundred thousand dollars on Samson Equipment to have at their house.
There was more money than I remember turning down like an idiot, the Philadelphia Eagles coaching job to be the first strength and conditioning coach. And I didn’t report to the head coach ⁓ at the time, which was ⁓ Dick Vermeer, that I was going to report to the athletic trainer. And they had no equipment. And my dad said, you know, well, sleep on the weight room floor. Who cares what they pay you? It is the NFL.
And if you do good, you you got your foot in the door and get started. But I was too, my ego was too big. It’s like, I’m Scott Warman. You need to pay me this and I need all this equipment before I come. What an idiot. I look back on that and yeah, one of the great mistakes of my life.
Samson :
Well, it seems like things still worked out pretty well for you, so I’m happy to hear it. Can you take me back to your first time actually meeting Dave and Linda? How was that experience?
Scott Warman :
haha
Hell, I guess.
Yeah.
Yep. So I had ordered equipment for a doctor friend of mine. He’s an orthopedic surgeon operated on me several times. He was the head strength. No, he was a head orthopedic surgeon for the Buffalo Bills and his dad was a professional race car driver. And this guy went to Columbia, the Ivy league school, played football and baseball and
had a back surgery and was paralyzed. And I was introduced to him by my athletic director at Sam Houston State. The next thing you know, he’s competing in powerlifting meets and literally thought I walked on water, wanted to have me full time, wanted to pay for me to become a professional physical therapist. And I would work with his clients. So I never did that, but he wanted a weight facility because he had young kids and on his own property and he had a big property.
So I got hold of Dave and I knew about him from the magazines and I didn’t have any ceiling for my budget. was whatever can fit in this 5,000 square foot private facility is what we’ll have. So of course I order all the dumbbells and then I start ordering all the stuff. And so I’m talking to Dave on the phone and then the next thing I know I’m coming to El Paso, Texas as the first strength coach.
And I remember Sports Illustrated wrote up this thing about ⁓ UTEP hiring this world champion powerlifter and we’ll see if he can do anything with the miners because we weren’t very good in the whack. And so from there, I meet Dave and Linda. UTEP doesn’t have money to spend. And I think I brought in more equipment than UTEP had on my own stuff. And so I had that in there.
And I want to get equipment, but we don’t have a budget for it. And so I go to Fort Bliss and I ended up getting equipment and Nautilus and my own stuff. so really the first time that ⁓ I’m able to really do something is when I resigned from UTEP and I have endorsement contracts with big companies like Reebok and Metrix. And so I don’t, I don’t need to work anymore because I’m making more.
in a month and I could make in a whole year strength coaching. And then Dave, ⁓ I need equipment for my own personal gym. And it was given to me by one of our big boosters. It was a martial arts studio. So I drive up and that was the first that I really met with Dave and I tell him that I want to get equipment. so, I mean, immediately we kick off and it’s like, I’ve known this guy forever.
And Dave is a storyteller. This gentleman here who’s 82, and I love the brag on him, Victor Koch, worked for a big international company. He’s a scientist, three master’s degrees. He’ll tell you out of all the people, I don’t know if anybody I’ve met talks and has more stories than you, but one of them is Dave Schroeder. And so that’s something that we connect with. I mean, we can go to lunch for literally five hours and just beginning to scratch the surface.
on our stories and with Dave’s background in California and with weights and with my love. mean, I started boxing when I was four years old and I was involved with all sports, but it was after that knee injury that I became fascinated with weights and what they could do. And so when I go up there with Dave, ⁓ that was pretty amazing. So I’m going to give you a quick story and Dave loves to hear me tell it.
So I’m with Jim Veronin. Jim Veronin is Russian. He’s acromegalic. He’s one of my training partners and he’s one of my assistant coaches at UTEP. So Jim was born in Russia and acromegaly is a pituitary disorder. Jim has a size 26 and a half inch neck, right? And a size 72 sport jacket. And he’s like bigger than life. His hands, he has a 20 inch ring.
Samson :
⁓ wow.
Scott Warman :
I mean, most, I mean, for most people, yours is probably maybe 11, you know, something like that. Um, 12, 13 is pretty big, but like 20 inches. So his little finger bigger than my thumb, his hand is two and a half knuckles wider than my fist. And, um, so I drive up with him, another guy by the name of Jim Weatherwax, who’s a wrestler and football coach, and he’s weighing 440. I first found out about him from a training partner.
Samson :
my goodness, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Scott Warman :
This training partner, ⁓ they used to have Army, Navy, Air Force competing against each other. And so this guy is a muscled up dude, 242 pound class, he’s been around the block. He calls me and I said, I can’t talk. He goes real, real quick. He said, I just spotted a guy that did a seated 405 for five easy reps seated behind the neck. I said, what? I said, where’s he from? He says, here. I said, he lives in El Paso? He says, yeah.
And I said, well, you guys, I’m already beat you to it. says, you’re going to meet us tonight at the gym. So then the three of us drive up, I’m in the middle. I’m, weighing about two 95 at the time. I’m a pig squeak. And then there’s the acromegalic big gym and then driving in the truck is Jim Weatherwax half Korean, uh, half, uh, yeah, half Korean, half Samoan. And so the doors don’t shut because we’re too big. So they got to hold the doors.
and we pull up and we’re going to get a piece of equipment and load it in the back of the truck. So Dave comes out and he’s like, he’s amazed and he’s, and he’s taking pictures and he’s bringing guys out to see. said, I don’t know how that truck, it can barely make it with you three. I don’t know how it’s going to make it with that, but he loves to tell that story, how we couldn’t shut the cab on the truck and we’re putting this, I forget what the piece of equipment is. We’re putting it in the back.
Samson :
You
Scott Warman :
And those three goons come in. Well, Dave wants to show us all off to all the guys working there and his employees and stuff. And so, um, yeah, I hung around with some pretty outrageous guys. And then the guy that was the strongest guy in the NFL, he was the first guy to ever bench 500 at UTEP and that’s Carlos Scott. And, uh, yeah, Carlos was officially the strongest guy in the NFL. And I had the good pleasure to work with him and the day that, that he moved away, uh, it was.
Worse than me losing a wife. It’s like, my, and I’ve been married four times and engaged for three and a half years to another girl, tennis player in college. So yeah, that hurt bad. It’s like, man, Carlos, don’t leave me. And yeah, he left. ⁓
Samson :
Yeah, it’s hard to explain to my wife sometimes what that feels like. Well, obviously you’ve got some amazing stories. Do you have a favorite memory that you can think of with Dave or Linda?
Scott Warman :
Ha
So my things ⁓ that really capture my imagination is them as individuals. ⁓ asked, companies come and go easy, and that’s not an easy field to make it in. I’ll give a lot of credit to Scott Schroeder. Scott, shout out to you. ⁓ Talk about a natural born salesperson. And we got to be good friends. I’ll never forget.
that Dave brought his boys up, all three of them. And I had some custom equipment and one of them was a lat pull down cable row. Okay, so you could do lat pull downs. Dave made me a special bar, gnarled it, thick, heavy. And the weight stacks were 25 pound plates. It was a 600 pound stack and I wanted more. I wanted a 900 pound stack. He said, who lifts that stuff? And so my pre-Christian days, I’m so arrogant. Well, I’m Scott Warnman.
So come on. And he says, well, it doesn’t work with a range of motion, but we can add on. I had these ⁓ frames, these steel frames, and I could hook them on and you could put more weight so we could add hundreds on top of that. So he brings the boys down. I left UTEP. I had been given that martial arts studio. I bought equipment for that from Dave. So that was one of my first encounters buying.
my own Samson equipment line like that. How cool is that? Spending more money than I should have, but like who cares? I just want to get stronger. And I married to Mary Ellen at the time. And so I get this equipment. He brings his three boys down and I’m doing back. Well, backs like I held the world record in the two man deadlift and the world record in the deadlift. And I still hold the USA record in… ⁓
⁓ in the deadlift. How that is I don’t know. But anyway, so they come down and I got this exercise, ⁓ cable deads. So I’m sitting down on a bench that’s about this high and I got that special bar and I I warm up with a stack and I’m doing like nine reps because I don’t ever go past nine. And Dave’s thinking like, wow, so I’m doing like ⁓ a lying down seated
back extension, right? And then I put another hundred on, but that’s a warm up too. So that’s 700 pounds. Then I put another hundred on and those boys will verify this as will Dave. And then I put more weight on. So I don’t know what I have on there. Six, seven, eight, maybe 900 pounds. So I’m doing stiff leg of deadlifts with it. And then all of a sudden I do so many reps and then the carabiner ⁓
breaks and I fall back. And Dave said, if I hadn’t witnessed that with my own eyes, like I would have never believed that a human being could even do that. And so that was a great memory for me. And even with weights that I lifted in overseas and world championships and invitationals and that was pretty amazing to me, to see.
The boys there and they’re, they’re, they’re young, you know, they’re young kids at the time. I think the oldest would have been Brian and maybe he’s just starting high school. And then, then you got, ⁓ Scott who’s young and then elementary school for the youngest boy. And they’re watching this workout and I got some big goons with me, the Russian Jim Verona and he’s one of them. And I got other big goons and, ⁓ they’re.
They’re like thinking, what, what is this? And that was kind of like me. The first time I went to Luke’s gym, was like, and Alice in Wonderland, like stepping through the looking glass. It’s like, what in the world is this world? Chuck Dunbar is 114 class. He’s four foot nine and he’s squatting with reps, a hundred pound plate and three 45s for reps. And at Marshall, I’m the only one that can even do that one time.
And that’s a real lift. mean, the football squats, I mean, those, they’re not even doing 500, you know? And I look at this one for teen pounder doing that. Well, that’s kind of probably what it was like, you know, for these young people. And then go into the different colleges, ⁓ different teams, but Sampson, you know, we had, we had such awesome equipment and they have amazing stuff out there.
At times it’s like in here I got 25, 50 pieces of equipment that we never built. One of my favorite pieces is the Nautilus hip and back. They don’t even make it anywhere where you lay down, remember it, and the resistance is above your knee and you push down on it. So I wanted to redesign it at an angle, put a 500 pound stack on, have a belt that comes over like ⁓ in the…
the amusement parks that holds you down. And then another, the multi hip that you stand on and you would have a big ground and you can adjust it. And again, the resistance is above your knee. I mean, I still want those pieces. ⁓ and they would sell like crazy today because nobody’s making them. And Dave, I could transfer that image to Dave’s mind. Dave could do it on pencil, give it to the guys on the computers. And I mean, just incredible equipment.
But they’re super busy the way it is.
Samson :
Well, can…
Very true. And I can promise you that ⁓ that is one of Brian’s favorite memories as well because he told me that story about you with the weight stack on the cable rows. Yeah. yeah, he did. Yeah. And he said, Connor, you wouldn’t believe it. Seriously. I mean, he immediately recanted me with that story.
Scott Warman :
Really? He was young.
Yeah, Dave was, ⁓ and so then I trained those boys. would drive down and particularly Scott, I trained him, ⁓ for several years and particularly during the summers. And then when he was playing college football, he had a really bad injury and then I got a doctor for him. He trained through that. ⁓ yeah, for a white boy, he was a hurdler, fast, fullback. I don’t necessarily know. I know that injury hurt him bad.
⁓ and his, his hand and wrist were never the same, but I’m really not sure why he didn’t make it to the next level because he’s kind of like, ⁓ who’s, who’s the young guy out of, ⁓ he’s starting right now for the giants. ⁓ yeah, scataboo. he’s like that except bigger, you know, Scott’s a good six, two and, ⁓ and solid and can run, but he’s got that, that grit and that determination.
Samson :
Camscara, boo. Yeah.
Scott Warman :
And he inspires everybody around him. mean, he’s a natural born leader. mean, him and Dave, ⁓ boom, there’s two alpha males and, ⁓ you know, Dave, I mean, it’s hard to believe that they’re still together, working together because ⁓ it’s hard. It’s hard for two alpha males to be together like that. But he obviously, the acorn didn’t fall far from the tree and he picked up a lot of traits from his dad. And so ⁓
He’s a big part of that company as is Brian. Brian’s a tremendous leader, but in a different way. You know, he’s more of a quiet leader. ⁓ you know, captain of his football team lead more by example, and, he’s doing a great job with his boys. ⁓ Dave loves his grandkids and that’s a whole other story that, you know, that’s a new part of his life. But I think what intrigues me about them is their integrity, what they stand for, not compromising.
Many people, know, we don’t need equipment that heavy, like Dave wouldn’t make it. Uh-uh. It’s not going to be fractional steel. It’s, it’s, uh, you know, it’s not gauge. It’s actually partial. And I don’t know what the exact is now and whether it’s a sixteenth of an inch or eighth of an inch or whatever, but people don’t make equipment like that. And I mean, the strongest guys in the world. mean, I train one of them. That’s Josh Silvis at 550 pounds and
I come up to here on him, he won America’s strongest man ⁓ a few years ago and he’s the biggest strongman in the history of the sport. And ⁓ the guy’s powerful and that equipment, he doesn’t wear it out. I trained another strong man who just won last year, world’s strongest man, 23 and under, ⁓ does good mornings with 500 pounds for reps all the way down to parallel. And I don’t care how strong those guys.
ever get. mean, we could bring the Brian Shaw’s from the US and the Hathor Bezorson’s Thor from ⁓ Scotland. They can’t max out that equipment. It’s that good. And ⁓ there’s nobody like it. But again, the strength of Sampson is Linda and Dave Schroeder. I mean, their integrity. I mean, what a role model. If I were to look at people that had
a huge influence on my life. ⁓ both of them, Linda, so good natured. ⁓ you know, would have loved to have a wife like Linda. Wow. ⁓ she’s just amazing and, ⁓ her and Dave are like a perfect fit and she’s a quiet storm, great athlete and, ⁓ just amazing. mean, her influence on those boys profound, but in a different way than Dave. And so as, as parents,
You know, they need to be applauded as company leaders, but Dave and Linda, I mean, they’re industry leaders and because of their integrity and who they are is why Samson is like it is. And like I said, I don’t know the exact number of pieces, but I’m going to probably say it’s up around 1300 individual pieces. mean, they blow everybody away. The only people that come close to them would be rogue and rogue is, well, Samson is an international company now they send.
All kinds of stuff overseas. created up. Dave’s learned how to do that. So sent into soccer teams, rugby teams, Olympic athletes, just amazing. But, the percentage of pro teams, college teams that they’re in, I don’t think there’s anybody even close to the Sampson, partly because there are longevity, but partly is because they continue to upgrade their equipment all the time.
And so we look back on some of that early equipment and we look at what they have today. It’s just, and everything, it’s the transition of, of science and technology and they go hand in hand and the boys have been a big part of that. And at times I think they get frustrated with Dave, but you know what? A lot of that old school stuff still works. And ⁓ the concept of progressive resistance, it’s king.
It’s king of the iron community. And I don’t care if it’s CrossFit, powerlifting, bodybuilding, strength training, rehab. ⁓ that is the foundation of the iron game. And we’re all united with that. And Dave understands that and the equipment that he churns out and the, ⁓ the lifestyle that those guys live. I mean, it’s just, I don’t have words to explain it. Yeah.
Samson (1:01:24)
Well, think
you say it best, It’s the ingenuity of the company, but then it’s also the people who run the company that allowed it stay around for so long.
Scott Warman (1:01:32)
Yeah. And it’s hard
because, you know, the guys that are, ⁓ that have, you know, that, yeah, they have guys with college degrees, the guys that work in the office and the guys that are running the cams. But in the factory itself, I mean, those are hard jobs and they’re tough. And, ⁓ you know, it’s blue collar and they stay and it’s hard to keep people these days. And, ⁓ particularly with, the internet and the attitude of, ⁓
entitlement, I even hate the word, but that’s a big part of it. And, but Dave is fair and the guys know that he’s, he’s demanding. He asks you something and he’s an orchestrator. He’s the orchestra leader, but he can do every job that’s there. And that’s the other thing that makes him effective is he can step in and show people on any different area. Cause once, once he get the order, there’s like 20 different steps.
from the steel coming in, raw steel, and those big flat iron beds, and you gotta take it out there, it’s got goop on it, and you gotta sandblast it with this ⁓ black, ⁓ it’s not sand, because sand would just crumble up, and they use it like three times, it’s black. ⁓ I can’t think of the stone, but they sandblast all that, and then from there they cut it outside, and you got all these different steps to it. It’s amazing, I mean, for… ⁓
a school to go through there and to go through that factory and all the steps in production. mean, if I was a high school teacher in something in industry, it’s like, I want to take my students and go through Samson factory. It’s that outrageous. And it’s right there in the little town of Las Cruces. Incredible. Incredible.
Samson (1:03:21)
I mean, it’s just
amazing, seriously. And again, it’s the equipment quality, but it’s also just the process that everything goes through to be part of the Samson equipment family. And then the people that you get to work with when you work with Samson, it’s what makes it such an amazing company. In closing, what would you like to say directly to Dave and Linda as they celebrate 50 years of Samson?
Scott Warman (1:03:45)
Yeah. So I’m definitely blessed to have known you guys and have worked with you and to Bennett from there and the years of being a spokesperson. ⁓ incredible. ⁓ but apostle Paul, we read about him in the new Testament and we read well done my good and faithful servant. And I think that there could be nothing more that you could say.
to Dave and Linda Schroeder, then well done, good and faithful servants to the strength athletic community. You are at the pinnacle of leadership with how a company should be run, how you treat people and the visionary over 50 years when you started on a little concrete slab and was just building equipment with college students for your own ⁓ school that you were athletic director and coach of.
and where you camp today, one of a kind. Yeah, so thank you guys. It’s been beautiful.
Samson (1:04:52)
I think that’s perfectly said.
If you could leave them with one final thing, what would you leave them with if you could say one final thing?
Scott Warman (1:04:59)
Yeah. ⁓ I love you both and I’ve never said that before. ⁓ but that’s, that’s deep inside. You guys always be a part of me. Dave is, ⁓ nine years older than me and, he’s going through some health issues right now. And, ⁓ I pray for those guys. I pray for Samson company and, ⁓ and the boys, they don’t know it, but, ⁓ I’ve been doing that for a long time.
And ⁓ it’s an honor to know you guys. And anytime I talk to Dave or get with him, it’s like, I just talked to him yesterday. Yeah. He’s a dear, special friend and Linda too. Absolutely. Love you guys.
Samson (1:05:46)
Well, Scott, mean, seriously, I can’t thank you enough. What an amazing episode. I mean, literally my cheeks hurt from smiling the whole time. I need to get some formal training program for that. I mean, but I seriously can’t thank you enough. It was an amazing episode and I truly appreciate it. And it’s very clear how much Samson means to you and how much you mean to Samson as well. So thank you for spending your time with us.
Scott Warman (1:05:56)
Ha
Well, it’s been an honor and a lot of fun. ⁓ like I said, 99 % of it’s on the cutting room floors. I told Victor today, I wish I had another week or another month because I could have gone back and chronologically gone through some things ⁓ because I’m just talking, just telling stories now. But sometimes, expiraneously, is as a special ⁓ feel for it rather than…
a tight structure. uh, hopefully the people that are out there that are listening, um, I can’t recommend Samson and, and if you have the ability to fly out there, you’re gonna fly into El Paso. We had actually talked about doing a showroom here in El Paso by the airport and we’re going to have Samson equipment. Um, I was going to run it and not get paid, but I would be allowed to, um,
do my own personal training and coaching out of it. And people would come in and we would take them there and I could take strength coaches or athletic directors or players through workouts. And ⁓ I wish for all the world we would have done it. But we talked about that. Rogue does it in Columbus, Ohio. They have a big showroom. You fly in from wherever, whatever country, and you spend time there. ⁓ I don’t know, maybe that’s something the boys would love to do in the future. ⁓
I’m gonna keep lifting to my last breath and I think I’m gonna live past 100. So I got another quarter century in me. If they ever wanted to do that, showroom Samson, I’m here. Yeah. Yeah.
Samson (1:07:48)
It’s still a possibility. Dave and Linda heard it here first.
Well, thank you, Scott. I greatly appreciate you.
Scott Warman (1:07:56)
All right, Connor, enjoyed it and wish you the best.
